Fox’s Martha MacCallum had a fascinating interview with Dr. Anthony Fauci’s boss at the NIH, Dr. Francis Collins.
MacCallum asks him about an April 20, 2020 email which references a Bret Baier report on the Wuhan lab leak theory. She asks why he, at that point, referred to it as a conspiracy theory. He claims there were “a lot of conspiracy theories floating around” and then he starts listing things including the lab leak theory, claiming he never ruled that out.
.@MarthaMacCallum is torching NIH Director Francis Collins over #FauciEmails. She asked about one w/the subject line “conspiracy gains momentum” re: the lab theory, but he lamented this is something he “never thought…would become a topic for Fox News” & they never dismissed it pic.twitter.com/bktbiNA1v0
— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) June 2, 2021
An April 2020 email from NIH Director Francis Collins to Fauci under the subject line: Conspiracy gains momentum. The email included a link to an article about Bret Baier saying on FOX News that covid outbreak started in Wuhan lab. Fauci’s response is redacted. pic.twitter.com/G8F7SUB23U
— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) June 1, 2021
Basically, Collins was trying to deflect, because the email was not about other conspiracy theories but about the lab leak theory, as the body of the text, not just the subject line indicated. Then he tries to dismiss the theory by saying he saw “no evidence” to support it. “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,” he says.
Now, of course, this makes no sense. Why should one theory require more “extraordinary evidence” than another theory?
But MacCallum skewers that deflection immediately, noting that there hasn’t been proof that it came from a “zoonotic source” (at which Collins made faces) and providing him with some golden evidence for the lab leak theory, grilling him as to whether or not he knew about the three researchers at the Wuhan lab who suffered COVID symptoms and had to get hospital care because they got so ill in November 2019. He indicates he was aware that some got sick, although not necessarily how many people there were that got
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